Episode 45: Eating Desserts Isn’t Good or Bad, It Just Is {with Kerri Fox}

 

Kerri Fox, a certified health coach and founder of Fox Health Coaching, joins the podcast today to talk about how we can fit dessert into our healthy habits. Kerri and I touch on the topic of how we shouldn’t label food as good or bad, but as it JUST IS, and if one day we eat the chips, well, that JUST IS, and the next day we might crave a smoothie. And that JUST IS. What a cool way to approach your eating, it’s all about the person you want to be. It’s not about the labels. It’s more about, well, what will our next choice be? That’s just such a great reminder, not to beat ourselves up with, what we’re eating, especially during the holidays or vacations or anything like that. 
We also talk about:

  • Healthy dessert swaps – it’s not about giving up dessert, it’s about choosing something even better!
  • How they adjust to eating vegan for religious purposes during fasting periods
  • Resetting your health during a detox
  • And more!

Connect with Kerri: https://foxhealthcoaching.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/foxhealthcoaching/

Episode Transcript:

Sarah (00:00):

Today on the podcast. I talk with Kerri Fox, founder of Fox Health Coaching. I loved this conversation about how we can fit desserts into a healthy lifestyle because we can, and that’s amazing. And we talk not only about desserts, but we also talk about how Kerri was able to help change her own family’s dietary choices. And that helped with her kids’ anxiety and their gluten intolerance. We also touched on her husband as an Orthodox priest and how they fit a vegan diet into their food choices during fasting times. So interesting to me, this is such a great conversation filled with so many nuggets of great information. As a reminder, you can find all the show notes for this show on our sponsored blog, badto thebowl.com/45. Let’s dive in and meet Kerri 

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Sarah (01:37):

And welcome back to the Bowl of life podcast. Today. I’m excited to introduce you to Kerri Fox, a certified health coach and founder of fox health coaching, where she helps others achieve optimal wellness through developing a deeper sense of their habits and lifestyle choices. Today, Kerri has graciously agreed to come on and talk about how we can fit dessert into our healthy habits. And if you didn’t know it, July is national ice cream a month. I used to work in tourism and that was a huge thing to promote in, in Michigan for tourism, but maybe not so healthy, right? Because we all want nice cold treats during the summer. So this will be so helpful to learn how we can be on a healthy lifestyle path and still have our desserts and such. So I’m super interested in this. She’s also going to touch on her family’s issues with gluten sensitivity and I’m dying also to hear more about husband’s journey with being an Orthodox priest and vegan eating cause that is super interesting to me.

Sarah (02:44):

So Kerri, welcome to the show. So can you just briefly maybe just tell us a little bit about yourself, like where you live, your family, what led you even into health coaching? 


Kerri (02:45)

Sure. So I live in Morris county, New Jersey and we have five kids ages, 11 to 25 and yeah, it’s a range. Our oldest just got married in January, so he’s out of the house, but everybody else is still with us. And what got me into the health coaching was just really going to feed my family better. So I graduated from IIN and 2019 and I had such a passion for it that I just kept going. So I took some other courses and I said, you know what, let me just start this health coaching business. So, you know, I try to incorporate all the healthy eating with my family and then actually into our church life too.

Sarah(03:52):

So was there something that triggered that like, oh, we need to eat healthier as a family?

Kerri (03:53)

My kids have, you know, either have  anxiety or actually my 17 year old was just diagnosed with ADHD. And at the time I just thought, you know what, I really think it comes down to food. And so my two oldest sons got blood work done and they both tested very high sensitive to gluten. So I pretty much in their diets, they don’t have any gluten, but the other kids do have some, but we’ve changed that so much. It’s unbelievable. Like, you know, we used to be an Oreo Doritos family and I haven’t had that in like the last five years. So yeah, that’s, that’s kind of what it was I just wanted to make sure that I was doing the best I could for them.

Sarah (04:47):

Yeah. I totally understand that. And you know, I feel like, so my mom way back in the day when my brother was a kid, you know, she was a huge believer as well, you know, I guess now she would have been considered the OJ right. Of like changing diets. Like my brother was a little hyperactive and so she was like, all right, we’re cutting out sugar and such like, we’re still gonna have it occasionally but, like for him, you know, to deal with this hyper you know, his hyperness let’s cut out. And it really, it really did help like with his speech and with everything like that. So, and I feel like, you know, that’s not really the first option people go to these days, which is unfortunate. Right. Totally firsthand. So cutting out the gluten, did it help with the ADHD and all that?

Kerri (05:42):

You know? I believe that it helped with almost everything, to be honest with you. You know, my oldest son had stomach issues and they’re basically gone. The second son was dealing with anxiety and I think that helped immensely. And then the Nico’s the fourth one and he’s 17. He just actually turned 18 and he’s become so wanting to eat healthy. It’s funny when we come down to my parents. So it’s like the black hole of, of, you know, treats. And so he’s like, mom, you gotta get down here quick because I don’t know what to eat. So you know what that’s encouraging to hear as a mom that you actually did make an influence in him. And so, you know, he works out every day and he’s really trying to eat better. A lot of protein, a lot of fat, a lot of fiber.

Kerri (06:32):

Wow. Yeah.  it’s like, you know, like they can say mom helped, you know, me, you know, realize, I mean, you know, they might not have the words for that right now, but maybe the older ones, but you know, your body does start to crave that kind of healthier, less processed food. Right. And as for you to install that in your children is just a lifelong, you know, skill that like for a healthy lifestyle, right. It’s going to, and you know what, we, I always go by inoculate, don’t insulate. So it’s not like I forbid anything, frankly, because I feel like once you forbid it and they just want it. So, so you got to expose them and let them find things out for themselves. But at least they, they know exactly the way I feel. So that’s a good thing. 

Sarah (07:27):

Yeah. No, that’s so funny that you say like expose them. Like  I’ve had that conversation with friends in the past. Like, you know, some of us grew up in pretty strict evangelical homes where, you know, like this was forbidden and that was forbidden and that was forbid. It just makes you want to do it more. Right. Like the minute you’re like out of the hosue, you’re like, give me all the cakes and cookies and whatever else, watch whatever TV shows I want. That’s right. You got it. You know, you have to, you have to be a little trusting and, and allow them the exposure. So they know. Yeah. Well, very cool. And obviously it’s made an impact if he’s like, get down here. I grabbed him. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That’s so funny deal with right. When family members, especially grandparents that bless them. Right. But they just want to lots of treats and oh, all that stuff.

Kerri (08:20):

Exactly. It’s, you know, it’s funny because when I was growing up everything, my mom made everything. So we didn’t have very much processed food. But then when I left the house, processed food was big here. Like, you know, they have crackers chips, all the stuff. So when my kids come, they’re like, what is this? Yeah. Feed our bodies with good food. And you know, it does, it’s true. It keeps you full longer. It makes you feel better. You’re not having a crash and burn. Right. Exactly. Inside. So yeah. So let’s transition to talking about desserts here because you know, along with that process too, right. Like sugar and kind of a sugar obsessed nation, and so much here to talk about like the different types of sugar. I covered that. When I talked with Emily on episode 20, like different types of how our bodies react and we can touch briefly on that today as well.

Sarah(09:27):

I’m always eager to hear people’s different views on that, but, you know, I want to know, like when you are working with clients and teaching them more about health, healthy lifestyle, I’m sure that comes up right. That people are like, but I want to have a little chocolate or I want to still have dessert. So to have desserts when pursuing a healthy lifestyle, well, I, you know what it goes back to, you know, you don’t want to deprive yourself completely because then you kind of do want it more.

Kerri (10:29):

 So I’m always like, you know what, we’re going to replace it with a little bit better dessert, but you’re still having dessert. So it could be, you know, as, as simple as just an apple with almond butter and a couple of dark chocolate chips on there, that could be an easy type of dessert. It could be where you’re making homemade ice cream and you’re putting maybe three tablespoons of maple syrup in it rather than 50 million cups of sugar.

Yeah. Yeah. So I encourage them. I’m like, if you’re craving a dark chocolate, go get a dark chocolate, something over 70%, but you can’t have the whole bar. You know, you’re going to have that a little bit in moderation too, but you know, I’m all for it. You know, I love making homemade desserts. So that’s kind of what we do at our house. And we have them, you know, maybe two or three times a week, not every night, but enough to make it so that it’s a special treat. Right. Yeah. And you know, I feel like there is a bit of a curve though in kind of reducing that sugar, you know, like eventually you get to a point, you know, after you’ve had enough, maybe healthier ish desserts, you start to notice like, whoa, that was, that was really sugary tasting. Cause your taste buds change, but recommends like kind of meaning gently from that before you go deep dive into the dark chocolate, which is much different than the 70% high, you know? Yeah. No, no, for sure. And so I do recommend kind of weaning yourself, you know, just like if people are giving up soda, you want to say, well, maybe you’ll go to a sparkling water before you just go to plain water or whatever else you don’t want to be. Like, let’s just cut it cold Turkey because people really do miss it. Yeah. Right. Then they’re just like obsessing about it. Right.

Kerri (11:56):

Or they’re having that cake. I wish I could have it. And then, you know exactly, exactly. You know, and I have just like for the gluten-free stuff to simple mills makes amazing, you know, box cakes that you can go and just get in. It’s super easy and delicious. And it’s not much sugar in that plus you’re not getting any Bowletins, so, oh, wow. I didn’t realize the simple mills also is a little lower in sugar too. Yeah, it definitely is. That is real. That’s really good to know. So you gave some great examples of like healthier desserts. What would it be? Some other like easy, easy ones as you’re kind of thinking of transitioning to? Is it just like going, making homemade all the time or you know, homemade is always best, but like again, simple mills has a great box mix that you can do a chocolate or vanilla cake.

Kerri (12:52):

And that’s an amazing way to go. If you’re short on time, you just want to make a couple of cupcakes, go ahead and do it. They have a great banana muffin mix that you can use that’s quick and easy. But we just made some blueberry sorbet so easy. It’s like three cups of blueberries, half a cup of water and a little lemon zest. And I think I put two scoops of maple syrup in there and two tablespoons. And that was it. You turned it, it froze for 20 minutes and you had yourself a really nice blueberry survey, right? Yeah. You know, and especially this time of year, right in the summer, you know, use that natural sweet fruit right. From the natural fruit. And I feel like that gets covered up a lot, you know, like, oh, once you start adding in all that sugar, it’s kind of loses that true taste of the fruit.

Kerri (13:47):

Exactly. Yeah. So that everybody loves that. So I was happy with that. And same thing with the vanilla ice cream, that’s easy to make too. And you just lower the sugar in that and that’s great. Great way to go. Yeah. And so when you’re working with clients promoting them on a healthy lifestyle, do you, I mean, do people do that? Are they struggling with this? Or, you know, I mean, right. I a five day detox on every season. So we just finished our summer one and it’s five days, no gluten, no dairy, no sugar. And I have to say, I’ve had repeat clients come back. And it’s just a great way to reset your body. And once they’ve reset it in just those five days, they really are. It eases them into just that like healthier lifestyle. Like my one client said, you know, I didn’t really crave anything because I was eating well, it’s just the clean, good food.

Kerri (14:54):

Yeah. We forget how our bodies respond to that. Right. Like God designed us pretty cool to respond to these natural foods that are meant to be ate  and they’re natural for right. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And you know, another great way to do it is have a smoothie. I, I encourage them immensely. It can aid in your sweet tooth. It fills you up. You feel really good about it. You’re getting your green veggies. And next I throw a lot of spinach in the smoothies and they’re, they’re feeling good. Right. So the detox is no gluten, no sugar. And what was that last one? No dairy, no dairy, no dairy. Yeah. Because so many dairy tolerances. Did your kids ever deal, deal with that as well? Or just the, my oldest son actually has a little bit of a problem with that, but he, so he pretty much avoids it.

Kerri (15:46):

Except for on special occasions you may have a little bit ice cream. 

Sarah
Yeah. No, my, my daughter is the same way sheet, liquid dairy though only. So I can’t quite figure that one out. Like, it’s definitely, that’s interesting. Right. Like, I mean, if she eats too much, like maybe have cheese in, in you know, we are plant forward podcast by she hasn’t come quite all the way off of that, but yeah. You know, maybe that it doesn’t, it only bothers her when her skin though, and she’s never been officially, but it actually, she just had a really bad flare up that I was like, no more ice cream. I was like, I’m sorry. I don’t know if it’s the fat content, the sugar, you know, I don’t know the lactose in it. I’m like, yeah. I’m like, this was worse than, you know, when we first noticed this, I’m like, it’s going to be worse.

Kerri (16:36):

Yeah. So, you know, it is interesting. You know, there’s different types of things that you start to, you know, notice with your kids in the field of asked. Right. But completely flip side. Right. We tend to forget that as adults we’re. So, you know, especially as parents, I think we’re like, okay, let’s make sure our kids are okay, but then we don’t take care of ourselves. I know. So true. That’s so true. So true.

Sarah

So, all right. So cool. So we covered, you know, the desserts and sides and detox, which is an amazing way to kind of kick start that now after clients go through the detox. 

Kerri (17:27):

That’s a paid service, more apt to do it right. When you pay for that, you know what they put their money in. And, but I’m there for them 24, 5, I guess I should say for those five days they get every recipe. They don’t have to think about anything. And yeah, it’s been very helpful for them. You know, one friend was just like, I didn’t think I needed it again, but frankly, once June came around, I was like, I need to detox one more time before the summer season. So it’s a great way. Once fall hits. I have another one in September. Oh, in September. Great. Perfect. Well, yeah, definitely put that in the show notes. So people indefinitely feel like if they want to jumpstart cause right. It’s more of a jumpstart, right? They kind of, yeah. Yeah. Tell me a little bit more about why to detox. We live in a very toxic world, frankly, in every, in every sense of the word, because you’re sometimes the water you’re drinking, the things you’re putting on your skin, the things that you’re eating, they have a lot of toxins in them.

Kerri (18:25):

So when you’re detoxing, you’re basically just trying to flush all those things out. So we start the day, like with some warm water and lemon, I’ve got some other teas in there. I bet some smoothies and just the foods that we’re eating, all help just get rid of those toxins in your body. And it just helps you really feel, I have to say by the end of the week, everybody is sleeping better and feeling just so good. Hm. That’s another good point, right. To point out the whole sleep issue and how the different foods we eat can affect that. Right. Exactly. I mean, one woman was like, my skin looks so much brighter and that’s just in five days. I mean, imagine if you did it a longer time, so it’s, it’s encouraging. It helps them, you know, really do jumpstart everything. Okay. Oh man.

Sarah (19:11):

That’s awesome. Because we all need that little reframing from time to time. Yeah, for sure. So, you know, I think we also get into that and detoxing, it’s kind of a great way to lead into this. Like, you know, especially, you know, when we kind of think of desserts or maybe some other food, we kind of get into these weird food labels, right. Like good. Oh, I shouldn’t eat that. It’s so bad for me. Exactly. Your thoughts on that. Like, should we just avoid labeling and food like that?

Kerri:

Completely agree. Like I don’t think we should label foods like that. You’re just trying to have one of my clients is on vacation and you know, someone already said to her, I don’t want to be dieting the whole time. And I said, you know what?

Kerri (19:59):

Tell her, you’re no longer on a diet. This is just the way you live. And if you choose to wake up and have chips in the morning, that’s what you’re choosing to do. It’s not good. It’s not bad. It just is. And then you may say to yourself on the next meal, you know what, I’m going to have a smoothie just to balance things out. Not good, not bad. Just is.. Hmm. I love that word. It just is. Yeah. Simple, but you know, simple -if you ate the chips in the morning and your healthy lifestyle, your body’s kind of going to be like, I really am cravings. Like something liquidity to quench my thirst now and that salty. Exactly. I mean, you know, or you just have like make yourself a great big salad and fill it with such good things.

Kerri (20:55):

Some protein, fat, and fiber, and you’re really good to go. Right? Yeah. Does it feel like it comes down to listening to our body too, right? Yes. It’s not only, you know, it’s that like? Okay. That, that just is, but then it’s like, well, listen to your next body cue. 

Sarah

Do you have any tips that you give kind of clients on, on that? Like how do you listen for when like, okay. Yeah. You know what? I want something sugary. I should, I should listen to my body and maybe have a little dessert, our little, that dark chocolate. 

Kerri

I really want people to not deprive some selves. And I think sometimes it’s all about the getting back up, you know? So let’s say you everybody’s having ice cream and you’re like, I really, I really want that. That’s your choice. It’s okay. Have the ice cream.

Kerri (21:42):

And then the next morning you may say, what am I going to do to be, make myself feel a little better? And you may have a smoothie. You may have, you could even have a salad in the morning, but it’s the next choice. That really is what is you know what I mean? Not the one, not the choice that you made the night before, but the next choice, it’s all about the getting back up. Just keep on going. It’s that you used to be? I feel like, you know, oh, I did something. I had pancakes for breakfast this morning. The whole day’s ruined. I don’t want people to feel like that anymore. I want people to feel like I had pancakes this morning. I really enjoyed them. And for lunch, I’m going to have a big salad with some veggies and some avocado. Hm.

Sarahi (22:25):

I love that. I love that. And I think that’s a continual message. We can keep pounding into our brain kind of listen, you know, if you want that, just do it. You know? And I’ve noticed with myself come to like fitness and exercise as well. Like, you know, some mornings I’ll get up and I’ll be like, Hey, the weather’s nice. I really feel like hitting the road. And I’ve noticed like, when I’m like, no, but you know, I already predetermined that I was going to do this other workout, so I should go. And then later I’m like, why didn’t I just go run? That was a gorgeous morning. Like, I should’ve just done it. Oh, it’s just like about you and giving yourself permission to listen. 

Kerri (23:26):

Right? Exactly. Exactly. And you know, I just don’t want people to feel bad about themselves, you know, or their choices, you know, you can, I won another health coach of mine was so great because she’s like, put this on your refrigerator is the choice I’m about to make supporting the person I want to be. Right. I thought that was so amazing. So the client who’s on vacation. I said, you know what, make sure you ask yourself that question. And if it’s supporting the person you want to be, because you want to join in the fun of everybody out, snacking our own something, then do it. And if it’s not, then don’t do it. It’s just choice. Right? Yeah. I feel like definitely we get caught in that trap, but you know, well, what’s everybody else going to think or what you know, or that, especially if you are in a group, but you know, like it just like, they know I’m supposed to be on this healthy lifestyle. Are they immediately going to be thinking, oh my gosh, she’s ruining it. You know, I know it’s so it’s really hard. It’s difficult. But you know, I think that we’re getting to a better point where we’re not labeling thing as good and bad just as, like I said, it just is, it just is. I love that, you know, just keep in mind what type of toys is that, you know, for the person I want to be. And that’s, that’s a good phrase as well. You know, and we don’t, I think deep down, none of us want to be that person who has the inner ridicule inside of us. Right?

Sarah (24:39):

Yeah, exactly. But also at the same time, you know, probably, you know, like you mentioned, even with, with your kids and anxiety as well and you know, food, I think leads to a lot of anxiety and woman, but you know, trying to make those healthier choices and then honoring, you know, listening kind of help around that food anxiety as well. I, I think, I think so too. Yeah. So I wanted to touch on, so interesting to me. Yeah, you had mentioned to me about your husband being an Orthodox priest and how certain times of the year you do kind of eat a vegan plant-based diet for that, tell me a little bit about that balance that into your lifestyle. 

Kerri (25:47):

Yeah. so gosh, I would say almost half a year, when you go through all the different fasting times, we definitely eat a more vegan type lifestyle and you know, I just try to be supportive. He’s very strict and, and the rest of us sometimes are, are not as strict, but I, I definitely support him in the way he is fasting at that during those times a year. So during advent, we fast 40 days and during lent, we fast 40 days. And then in between there maybe two weeks or a week of fasting as well, and by fasting, I mean, we’re giving up basically dairy and meat. So we’re right. Like the last few years for having takes. Yeah. I mean, it’s a lot easier. However, what I will say that the, the danger in it and what I’ve seen in Orthodox churches when they’re having their time of fasting is the sugar can increase. So you have to, because they want to try to make things taste so much better. So we’re, we’re just a little bit more with that.

Kerri (26:44):

And not just replacing things with basically processed foods. Well, right. And that’s it that went through my mind right after I said that like here to eat, work, play at base, rather, you know, I don’t know if I’d put the process. He was really in the plant-based category, but with the explosion of everything off the market, these days, some of the ingredients said they’re not simple stuff. Exactly. Yeah. So we have to really be careful with that, but there’s a lot of great resources, like you said. I mean just a lot more than I think there used to be. And so we try to it’s, it’s, it’s good. So it’s, it’s good for our family and it’s helpful to him when we’re supporting him on that.

Sarah (27:47):

Right. Yeah. And I think that’s key right. To like your family and their supports. And in, in all of that, I had Chelsea on the podcast a few weeks ago and her husband had transitioned to more of a plant-based diets.Cause they had witnessed some friends go through some heart issues and stuff. And he was like, but I can’t do this if I don’t have my team around. Okay. And I was just so true. And I think, you know, it’s not just this and I loved how she used that. Like, I mean my whole team here, I guess they were really good players as well. And I was like, that’s a good way to phrase it. Like, it’s not like, well, my spouse made me do this. Our mom’s making me do that. No, I’ve heard that before, like we’ve had to bring a salad for lunch because mom’s already gone. That’s exactly right. Yeah. If you look at it as like, well, Hey, this is what our team is doing. Like we’re all supporting each other during this time. That’s a really well, and I just, I, yeah, I didn’t really.

Kerri (28:35):

So what is the Orthodox background? . So the Orthodox church is basically from the apostles. So everybody was Orthodox at that time and then one branched off and became a Bishop at the basically became the Pope. So the Orthodox or before Catholicism. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. So we’re straight from the apostles. It’s basically the same letter G that they did. We still do, you know, over 2000 years later. Yeah, no, that’s so cool. Fascinating. I love biblical history. I grew up in a Baptist evangelical household now, but the history of it always is very fascinating to me to, to lately and, and we grew up I was Presbyterian, he was Methodist. He was so he was a Methodist minister first. And he then was introduced to orthodoxy when he prints to Princeton seminary and he just fell in love with it and wanted to become a priest.

Kerri (29:43):

I wasn’t really ready. So he went and got a PhD and while during that time I read up on it and experienced it and orthodoxy is pretty much new in this country, but it’s the oldest out there anyway. But in this country it’s very new. So we’re part of the Orthodox church of America. So our services are in English, but you know the liturgy is the same. If you went into a Greek church or a Russian church or anything like that, just in a different language. Yeah. I was thinking it had origins in, in Europe. So yeah, that would be right if you, you said like Greek and Russian and yeah. So cool. And so cool how you guys could support each other through that as well. You know, because I think a spiritual journey is just as well as our food journey, our mental journey, you know, any of that other stuff.

Kerri (30:38):

Talk about more spiritually. Yeah. No, completely. It definitely, definitely is. Yeah. And I didn’t, I didn’t realize you know, there were so many different fasting periods as well. So many I sometimes I forget what’s, you know, oh, I’m sorry. We’re fascinated. Okay. So, you know, yeah. Well, I guess you have your husband there to guide you. Right. So reminder that seemed as though to kind of give a brief background of that. You know, it’s different than detox because fasting is more about bringing you to a more close relationship with God during that time. Exactly. Right. Right. I mean, you’re basically saying I’m having a hard time. I’m not in this alone. I don’t want food to control me or anything else and I need God’s help. Yes. Yeah. So that would be the difference for listeners who’s listening. Like what is the difference between fasting and detox and like, you know, and, and at least in the evangelical church that wasn’t ever explained that, well you know, like it was more like, okay, fast during this.

Kerri (31:51):

And you’re like, well, why like, why am I doing that? Like, yeah, no, you know, it’s very interesting, but fasting you know, particularly during lent on, on Wednesdays, we have a pre sanctified liturgy and you’re supposed to be fasting all day, literally fasting as in just drinking water. And so that was always difficult for me, but it’s become easier. Frankly it’s become easier because I I’m a big fan of intermittent fasting. And so I just prolong the fast for that day. And it’s just a really nice time for prayer. Yeah. Yeah. Prayer reflection. Yeah. Yeah. Well, oh, wow. Intermittent fasting as well. Yeah. It could be an extended part of that. And won’t go into all of that today out to carry, to learn more about fasting because you know, I think that is becoming a huge thing of interest right now for, for people, but that, but Kerri, this has been so fun.

Kerri (32:56):

And I can still have my desserts too. And I love that, you know, it’s not cutting them out entirely. It’s not labeling them good or bad it’s you know, maybe kind of detoxing yourself away from the less sugary things. And, you know, I think people don’t believe it’s like, oh no, I’m always going to crave those things. Well, not really, like when you detox start to detox away from them, your body, like you go back and have something sugary and it seems really sweet. You’re like, I can’t even, I can’t even have that. It’s too sweet. Exactly. That’s part of what happens, which is, you know, I have to say in my kids, it’s really fun to say yes, because you always think kids man sugar holics right. Yeah. I mean, it really is like, I can’t get over my son. Who’s 18.

Kerri (33:49):

Just the amount of him craving really good for you foods. So I say parents out there being encouraged. Yeah. That’s so encouraging. And you know, that is, you know, having a ripple effect to his own friends when they noticed that as well. Yeah. I think so. You can only hope. Right. But yeah. I mean, he just feels really good and when he doesn’t eat that way, he doesn’t. So he’s gotten the correlation. So that’s, that’s all you can want. Oh yeah. Oh man. I know my husband and I were constantly talking, you know, like, gosh, like our kids eat way too many need dessert. It’s like, you know, how much is too much? And you know, every holiday comes around and suddenly everybody’s giving them candy and we’re like, all right. I know. I, I know. I know. So it’s hard. Yeah. So, but you know, I think the ripple effect, right?

Sarah (34:44):

Like as a parent, you said, okay, we started changing, you know, what you ate healthier for family that ripple effect down to your kids. And I think no matter what age your kids are at, they’re kind of watching to see what their parents are doing. You know? I definitely think so. Yes. I really believe that. And you know, ultimately they may go through a stage where they’re not eating healthy, but because you gave them that something to look towards they’ll come around. Yeah. They’ll they’ll remember. So remember, Hey, oh, that was you know, I did that for awhile and I feel like the same, you know, on the flip side of that exercise too, you know, I can remember going through some years in college when I really wasn’t thinking eyes and then I’d get back into it and I’d be like, man, I miss this, you know, like I feel so much better sleep better, you know?

Kerri (35:35):

So it’s like all comes together, right. We’re a healthy lifestyle or they will, you’ve slipped off the wagon, but remembers, you know. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that’s what I’m saying about, you know, you get back up, that’s the important part, right. He gets, you’re getting back up and it just is, you know, it just is yes. It’s, you know, you’re going to have an opportunity the next day, the next week. Yeah. So very cool. So Kerri, where can people find out more about your detox, about your health coaching and all of that good stuff? Yeah. So you can follow me on Instagram at Fox health coaching. That’s probably the easiest way I do have a website, also Fox health coaching.com. You can find out information there, but Instagram’s the best way.

Sarah:

 Yeah. Yeah. Just slide into her messages right there on Instagram. And she’s more than happy to help you out answer your question. You know, if you want healthier sweet ideas, healthier dessert ideas, or learn more about her detox programs that is amazing. Just get in touch with Kerri. So Kerri, thank you so much for coming on Sarah. This has been so fun and all of this in the show notes. So listeners can definitely get in contact with you. Perfect. Thank you so much for having me.

Sarah (36:57):

I loved how Kerri and I touched on the topic of how we shouldn’t label food as good or bad, but as it just is, and if one day we eat the chips, well, that just is, and the next day we might crave a smoothie. And that just is, that is just so cool to think of it like that. I love it. And it’s all about the person you want to be. It’s not about the labels. It’s more about, well, what will our next choice be? That’s just such a great reminder, not to beat ourselves up with, you know, what we’re eating, especially during the holidays or vacations or anything like that. I just loved this conversation. I loved about the healthy dessert talk and I loved learning so much about Kerri in her own family’s journey. And if you want to connect with Kerri and learn more about, about her five day detoxes or how you can be part of her health coaching, we’re going to put all the information in our show notes. As a reminder, you can find all the show notes for this show on our sponsored blog, bad to the Bowl.com/45. That’s bad to the Bowl.com forward slash 45. Thanks for listening guys.

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